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Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers who represented the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.


The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: “Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that all of the Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"


There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation he replied, "Non-believers!"


I responded, “So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to heaven. Is that correct?”


The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, “Yes.”


I then said, “Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat Robertson or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to heaven.”


The Imam was speechless.


I continued, “I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question…would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and wants you to be with me?”


You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.





Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me these 20 years of prison ministry. He said to me, “Rick, remember that the truth will prevail.”  And it will!


Reader responds to Snopes:


Whether or not the Muslim who gave the presentation was an inmate of an "official" Imam from outside the prison system is irrelevant. The man evidently had enough qualifications to represent the beliefs of the Islamic faith or he would not have been asked to make the presentation. As far as the official response by the gentleman from the Missouri Department of Corrections is concerned, I believe you need to examine the response in light of the political reality of his position in this situation. It is well documernted that within the prison systems across our nation, the Islamic faith has been growing by leaps and bounds - particularly among the African American inmate populations. Missouri is no exception. If I were in the prison officials position I would have probably said the same thing to avoid the possibility of a "holy war" within my prison system. Aside from that, I understand that he wasn't even present when the event took place. Last, but not least, I find it amusing that those within the Islamic faith who were contacted for comment were offended and denied the crux of the point which Mr. Mathes was making. I would highly suggest that you read the Koran, which is quite explicit as to the fate of those who are identified as "infidels". I might also remind those reading this that it was the followers of Muhammad - not Christ - that destroyed the World Trade Center buildings killing thousands of innocent "infidels"; Muslims are killing our troops in Iraq - not Christians. Need I say more?


Mr. Mathes hit the nail on the head in this editorial!  JD



An American Muslim Comments


(Rick) Question: Who in the Amerincan Muslim community will denounce the calls for holy jihad that we hear from the clerics in the Middle East?


(Abudu) Answer: Contrary to what some Muslims that are in the public view might say, most Muslims support the fights and battles of the Muslims that are taking place in the Middle East. So, why should we denounce their jihads for ridding themselves of Western influence and so called democracy?


(Rick) Question: Who will say that these Imams are using the Koran to further their own self-interests?


(Abudu) Answer: They are not, they are using the Qur'an and Islam in most cases only for spiritual support. Most of the wars in the Mid East are cultural and the plain resistance to oppression by Western governments and indirectly from secular governments set up by Western governments.


(Rick) Question: Who will say that the call to kill infidels (Christians and Jews) is contrary to the teachings of the Koran?


(Abudu) Answer: I ask you to show me where and when that so called fatwa or jihad was issued? There is a difference between the two.


(Rick) Question: What American Muslims will write a rebuttal to the claims of these radicals that answers the above questions and will give me permission to put them in my book?


(Abudu) Answer: Not to insult you and sound insensitive, but who cares about what you put in your book? You nor your book is important to any Muslim. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and will surpass Protestantism in America in the next 15 to 20 years. The only Goliaths are the United States government, Israel and the United Kingdom. They will be felled soon because Islam will never die and to paraphrase what the Prophet (saws) said, why fight today when all of eternity is here to fight for your lord. The good will prevail over the bad.